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Dorian Tats
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Posted - 2009.04.03 17:16:00 -
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Interesting that so called "ninja salvaging" is allegedly intended by the developers, yet, I don't think there's actually a mechanic for scanning out wrecks other than scanning down the guy doing the mission.
I could be wrong.
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Dorian Tats
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Posted - 2009.04.03 19:00:00 -
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I'm not following.
Are you saying that ninja salvagers will stop ninja salvaging if there's a chance they could get banged up in the mission?
And then you're saying that there's enough ninja salvagers that will actually stop the behavior that rig prices will sky rocket?
 Originally by: Dedalus77
Not supported.
This keeps coming up and keeps coming up and keeps coming up. Look, salvage is meant as a mini-profession in order to generate the raw materials to create rigs. Let's think through what would happen if you introduce salvage aggro:
1) Pirates will bait mission runners much the same way they bait miners and the next thing you know the same mission runners will be complaining about how pirates are baiting them and blowing them up and boo-hoo, make it so only the wreck owner can salvage.
2) The number of people engaging in salvaging activities will decrease resulting in...
3) the value of salvage materials will increase resulting in...
4) the cost of all those rigs you have will increase and you will all be complaining about how no one can afford to buy rigs anymore to fit on the new ship you had to buy because someone came into your mission and blew you up.
Seriously, get over it. Mission in a less crowded area. Salvage your own wrecks as you go (I have seen plenty of mission runners do this and i generally leave them alone). Bring someone along to salvage for you. There are 3 solutions to your problem that do not involve screwing up the entire salvage/rig market.
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Dorian Tats
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Posted - 2009.04.03 19:36:00 -
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Right. But like you said, do that to a military ship, and you're likely going to have a tough time.
I think I *get* why you can't just scan down a wreck with a combat probe---as there's probably a good chance that there could potentially be so profitable that everybody and there brother would be dong it.
Although, I don't understand that other thing where somehow associating risk with ninja salvaging will cause mass market hysteria.
Originally by: Jat Goodwin
IIRC, I read somewhere once that the eve online salvage system is based around the real world naval salvage.
In international waters, the first person to get a chain around the wreck gets to claim it as salvage.
However if you do that to a military vessel you will most likely be shot...
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Dorian Tats
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Posted - 2009.04.03 23:55:00 -
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Yup.
Originally by: Malcanis
Originally by: Epegi Givo
Agreed. Currently, hi-sec missioning is way too safe. This change would bring dozens - if not hundreds - of eager pirates into hi-sec, each working full time to try and tempt missioners with juicy faction/officer fits into fighting. This would add some much needed risk to balance the high rewards, just as happens with miners.
Meanwhile the large increase in ninja salvaging would drop the price of rigs so that they are more affordable to the average player. Double win!
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